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		<title>By: krispy</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=50&#038;cpage=1#comment-2731</link>
		<dc:creator>krispy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 7 years growing i have found that length of flowering period has a direct effect on the ratio when in natural light. The later the harvest the greater the CBD, so artificial environments and &quot;time=power=money&quot; equations all equating to THC rich skunk rather than healthy highs.
WE CAN THANK PROHIBITION AGAIN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 7 years growing i have found that length of flowering period has a direct effect on the ratio when in natural light. The later the harvest the greater the CBD, so artificial environments and &#8220;time=power=money&#8221; equations all equating to THC rich skunk rather than healthy highs.<br />
WE CAN THANK PROHIBITION AGAIN</p>
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		<title>By: Mungo</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=50&#038;cpage=1#comment-2729</link>
		<dc:creator>Mungo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally there is no commercially sold cannabis that is CBD rich. Of the types usually available, the greatest % I have seen was 2% with OG Kush but it was still very high in THC. Since then several strains such as Pineapple Thai in Calif are available with 5% CBD and about 10% THC.  

Everybody says Indica is rich in CBD, they are just guessing &amp; passing on what they have heard. Only a few sites actually test the product before selling it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally there is no commercially sold cannabis that is CBD rich. Of the types usually available, the greatest % I have seen was 2% with OG Kush but it was still very high in THC. Since then several strains such as Pineapple Thai in Calif are available with 5% CBD and about 10% THC.  </p>
<p>Everybody says Indica is rich in CBD, they are just guessing &amp; passing on what they have heard. Only a few sites actually test the product before selling it.</p>
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		<title>By: jldstuff393</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=50&#038;cpage=1#comment-2638</link>
		<dc:creator>jldstuff393</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^are you kidding?  How about the website you&#039;re posting this comment on?

It is, however, interesting what you mentioned about the negative effects of cannabis being countered by some other plant out there... My personal feelings are that as humans, we evolved with drugs, and many (if not most) of the negative effects on our health &#039;caused&#039; directly by these drugs are more importantly caused by a psychoactive plant like cannabis being used out of the context of the ecosystem in which we evolved, where there were likely other factors that counteracted or attenuated these negative effects.  Specifically, the amounts of the various different substances (psychoactive and non-) that we now consume has been distorted from those of our natural environment.  

--I just find this an interesting parallel to how the distortion of the CBD:THC ratio seems to cause negative effects.




This is slightly off topic, but, u know, for my own &quot;research,&quot; are there any simple/inexpensive ways to extract only THC or CBD from herbal weed, that one could do at home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^are you kidding?  How about the website you&#8217;re posting this comment on?</p>
<p>It is, however, interesting what you mentioned about the negative effects of cannabis being countered by some other plant out there&#8230; My personal feelings are that as humans, we evolved with drugs, and many (if not most) of the negative effects on our health &#8217;caused&#8217; directly by these drugs are more importantly caused by a psychoactive plant like cannabis being used out of the context of the ecosystem in which we evolved, where there were likely other factors that counteracted or attenuated these negative effects.  Specifically, the amounts of the various different substances (psychoactive and non-) that we now consume has been distorted from those of our natural environment.  </p>
<p>&#8211;I just find this an interesting parallel to how the distortion of the CBD:THC ratio seems to cause negative effects.</p>
<p>This is slightly off topic, but, u know, for my own &#8220;research,&#8221; are there any simple/inexpensive ways to extract only THC or CBD from herbal weed, that one could do at home?</p>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting read and a lot of people have some good points in the comments.

I agree it is very difficult to believe that there are only 2 &#039;primary&#039; active compounds of Cannabis; but none the less the fact that this study has shown how they counter each other should pave the way for further study into more compounds and their affects to the mix.

It may indeed be that these higher ratio THC to CBD strains are more harmful with prolonged usage but I&#039;m sure that if you ask any experienced Cannabis user you would find the ratio is what makes the high. Some users prefer a more CBD feel whereas others prefer that near all THC hit.

I think that further research should be focusing on the on-going health impact that this ratio of THC/CBD has and what can be done to reverse these effects. Is it just me that thinks if Cannabis is naturally occurring on a plant then there&#039;s almost certainly some other plant growing somewhere that will counter it?

And as for the government, law and prohibition... Personally I have never believed what the government have told me in that regards and recently a lot of the UK&#039;s drug advisory council even stepped down because they did not feel that they where working towards the good of the public health; rather simply furthering the prohibition laws.

Unless we stand up and show our disgust at the way they are running things nothing will change. It&#039;s all good and well to talk about it online and with our friends but there just doesn&#039;t seem to be a massive group standing up to them and fighting for the rights of not just the users but the countries (and possibly world?) as a whole.

Just my 2 cents of course :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting read and a lot of people have some good points in the comments.</p>
<p>I agree it is very difficult to believe that there are only 2 &#8216;primary&#8217; active compounds of Cannabis; but none the less the fact that this study has shown how they counter each other should pave the way for further study into more compounds and their affects to the mix.</p>
<p>It may indeed be that these higher ratio THC to CBD strains are more harmful with prolonged usage but I&#8217;m sure that if you ask any experienced Cannabis user you would find the ratio is what makes the high. Some users prefer a more CBD feel whereas others prefer that near all THC hit.</p>
<p>I think that further research should be focusing on the on-going health impact that this ratio of THC/CBD has and what can be done to reverse these effects. Is it just me that thinks if Cannabis is naturally occurring on a plant then there&#8217;s almost certainly some other plant growing somewhere that will counter it?</p>
<p>And as for the government, law and prohibition&#8230; Personally I have never believed what the government have told me in that regards and recently a lot of the UK&#8217;s drug advisory council even stepped down because they did not feel that they where working towards the good of the public health; rather simply furthering the prohibition laws.</p>
<p>Unless we stand up and show our disgust at the way they are running things nothing will change. It&#8217;s all good and well to talk about it online and with our friends but there just doesn&#8217;t seem to be a massive group standing up to them and fighting for the rights of not just the users but the countries (and possibly world?) as a whole.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents of course <img src='http://ukcia.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: herby</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 10:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d just like to say, this forum is fantastic, the more people discuss truth the more it will have to be accepted. i agree with many angles and it is important to recognise all points agree in principal. i am very much on the same page as &quot;sap&quot; in that i view the topic within the all and therfore have an anti-linear perspective on all things. for example the paradigm we live in doesnt accept metaphysics despite using its base principles daily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d just like to say, this forum is fantastic, the more people discuss truth the more it will have to be accepted. i agree with many angles and it is important to recognise all points agree in principal. i am very much on the same page as &#8220;sap&#8221; in that i view the topic within the all and therfore have an anti-linear perspective on all things. for example the paradigm we live in doesnt accept metaphysics despite using its base principles daily.</p>
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		<title>By: Dickie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ratio of CBD/THC is often stated by seed suppliers and it appears to me a large quantity is still listed as containing a fairly high ratio of CBD (often described as medical grade). However, perhaps the most popular strains are sadly lacking in CBD; but high CBD ratio cannabis is very common still  and as strong (just in a different way).  From my experience I would also say that very little has changed regarding powerfulness over the years (apart from a dip in quality in the late 90&#039;s); powerful cannabis was very available before imports became restricted (around the time of the first Gulf war and the &#039;terror&#039; resulting in Soapbar).  The effect of cannabis products constantly changes depending on what appears to be a multitude of factors (I assume these factors alter its overall makeup, not just CBD/THC balance), including the altitude it’s grown at.  Some of the most powerful I&#039;ve known was grown outdoors at high altitude and even had a large quantity of seeds (probably the same strain had been grown for decades).  The skunk argument is fabrication (as far as I am aware skunk was just a strain anyway, like northern lights, Orange Bud or Cheese; basically a mix of Sativas, Indicas and Ruderalis varieties), why don&#039;t we use the term Sensimelia (without seeds) instead? Hashish should also be stronger than &#039;skunk&#039; because its a concentrated form of cannabis unfortunatley British stuff is usually adulterated.
Oh, and the &#039;Buds&#039; of today are often the same as the &#039;Buds&#039; of the sixties, they&#039;re inter-breeding the same strains because they were the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ratio of CBD/THC is often stated by seed suppliers and it appears to me a large quantity is still listed as containing a fairly high ratio of CBD (often described as medical grade). However, perhaps the most popular strains are sadly lacking in CBD; but high CBD ratio cannabis is very common still  and as strong (just in a different way).  From my experience I would also say that very little has changed regarding powerfulness over the years (apart from a dip in quality in the late 90&#8242;s); powerful cannabis was very available before imports became restricted (around the time of the first Gulf war and the &#8216;terror&#8217; resulting in Soapbar).  The effect of cannabis products constantly changes depending on what appears to be a multitude of factors (I assume these factors alter its overall makeup, not just CBD/THC balance), including the altitude it’s grown at.  Some of the most powerful I&#8217;ve known was grown outdoors at high altitude and even had a large quantity of seeds (probably the same strain had been grown for decades).  The skunk argument is fabrication (as far as I am aware skunk was just a strain anyway, like northern lights, Orange Bud or Cheese; basically a mix of Sativas, Indicas and Ruderalis varieties), why don&#8217;t we use the term Sensimelia (without seeds) instead? Hashish should also be stronger than &#8216;skunk&#8217; because its a concentrated form of cannabis unfortunatley British stuff is usually adulterated.<br />
Oh, and the &#8216;Buds&#8217; of today are often the same as the &#8216;Buds&#8217; of the sixties, they&#8217;re inter-breeding the same strains because they were the best.</p>
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		<title>By: UKCIA</title>
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		<dc:creator>UKCIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been claimed in the media that so-called &quot;skunk&quot; contains virtually no CBD at all. The 2008 Home Office study found sample of &quot;skunk&quot; with very low CBD content, although I would agree the science of that study was weak to put it mildly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been claimed in the media that so-called &#8220;skunk&#8221; contains virtually no CBD at all. The 2008 Home Office study found sample of &#8220;skunk&#8221; with very low CBD content, although I would agree the science of that study was weak to put it mildly.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article talks about strains with seemingly unbalanced THC/CBD ratios that have become popular as a result of prohibition, but it doesn&#039;t give any example ratios for these &#039;new&#039; strains.  I know there are definitely strains out there like this, but are they really that common?  Is that really the issue...and not just potency by volume?  I&#039;m not discounting the impact of the ratio on the &#039;high&#039;, but I&#039;m not convinced the &#039;potency&#039; issue isn&#039;t more closely related to the prevalence of skilled growers who produce overall better quality plants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article talks about strains with seemingly unbalanced THC/CBD ratios that have become popular as a result of prohibition, but it doesn&#8217;t give any example ratios for these &#8216;new&#8217; strains.  I know there are definitely strains out there like this, but are they really that common?  Is that really the issue&#8230;and not just potency by volume?  I&#8217;m not discounting the impact of the ratio on the &#8216;high&#8217;, but I&#8217;m not convinced the &#8216;potency&#8217; issue isn&#8217;t more closely related to the prevalence of skilled growers who produce overall better quality plants.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The skunk of today is not the skunk of the 1960s.

Bad news, neither is your food supply.  While weed may have become more potent, it is still mostly harmless when used appropriately.  However, the food supply, especially in America, has changed far more radically than the Marijuana supply.  And the food supply can greatly negatively impact us, diabetes, heart disease, removing the market from the farmer.  So when people say things aren&#039;t like they used to be, agree with them, then scare them for what they have let one legal thing become.  We need pot, it&#039;s far healthier than the booze corroding our livers, and the mass produced beef clogging our hearts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The skunk of today is not the skunk of the 1960s.</p>
<p>Bad news, neither is your food supply.  While weed may have become more potent, it is still mostly harmless when used appropriately.  However, the food supply, especially in America, has changed far more radically than the Marijuana supply.  And the food supply can greatly negatively impact us, diabetes, heart disease, removing the market from the farmer.  So when people say things aren&#8217;t like they used to be, agree with them, then scare them for what they have let one legal thing become.  We need pot, it&#8217;s far healthier than the booze corroding our livers, and the mass produced beef clogging our hearts.</p>
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