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	<title>Comments on: The government on drugs: alcohol Vs cannabis yet again.</title>
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		<title>By: just_some_guy</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=52&#038;cpage=1#comment-2557</link>
		<dc:creator>just_some_guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 20:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi   im a 22 year old male. my parents have owned a bar since i was in second grade. in fact it was right across the street from our home.  Statistically i should be an alcoholic but since i have seen so many people who are so violent while using this drug, so many friends dead because of driving while using this drug, i rarely ever drink. to date the last time i had a drink was 3 months ago and it was only 1.      

through slightly earlier stages of my young life i drank more frequently but always had someone sober come get me or i would stay the night and go home in the morning. 
I believe the reasons for all of this is because my parents explained what alcohol was and i was always around it.      

and for the smokers and non smokers out there ive been smoking cannabis fot about 2 years now every day love it and ive never raped robbed or killed anyone i go to work evrery day (not high) i know for most of you smokers out there u also share this same lifestyle but unfortunately a lot of people still think (HIGH ON THE RANGE OR REEFER MADNESS) when they talk about “dope smokers“. 

I hope one day society will realize alcohol is a drug and weed isnt so bad after all.  

For the record im not bashing alcohol or its users i simply believe that what you put in your body is your own business and as long as you are not hurting anyone else no one should be able to tell you otherwise. 

peace to everyone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi   im a 22 year old male. my parents have owned a bar since i was in second grade. in fact it was right across the street from our home.  Statistically i should be an alcoholic but since i have seen so many people who are so violent while using this drug, so many friends dead because of driving while using this drug, i rarely ever drink. to date the last time i had a drink was 3 months ago and it was only 1.      </p>
<p>through slightly earlier stages of my young life i drank more frequently but always had someone sober come get me or i would stay the night and go home in the morning.<br />
I believe the reasons for all of this is because my parents explained what alcohol was and i was always around it.      </p>
<p>and for the smokers and non smokers out there ive been smoking cannabis fot about 2 years now every day love it and ive never raped robbed or killed anyone i go to work evrery day (not high) i know for most of you smokers out there u also share this same lifestyle but unfortunately a lot of people still think (HIGH ON THE RANGE OR REEFER MADNESS) when they talk about “dope smokers“. </p>
<p>I hope one day society will realize alcohol is a drug and weed isnt so bad after all.  </p>
<p>For the record im not bashing alcohol or its users i simply believe that what you put in your body is your own business and as long as you are not hurting anyone else no one should be able to tell you otherwise. </p>
<p>peace to everyone</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=52&#038;cpage=1#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 10:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article! never understood why alcohol gets let off and weed gets so much crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! never understood why alcohol gets let off and weed gets so much crap.</p>
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		<title>By: What are other reasons besides drugs or alcohol would your eyes be dialated? &#124; odpoczne.net Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>What are other reasons besides drugs or alcohol would your eyes be dialated? &#124; odpoczne.net Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The government on drugs: alcohol Vs cannabis yet again. &#124; The &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Drug Rehab Blogg</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=52&#038;cpage=1#comment-683</link>
		<dc:creator>Drug Rehab Blogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The government on drugs: alcohol Vs cannabis yet again. &#124; The &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: hemp</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=52&#038;cpage=1#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator>hemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ban alcohol no amount is safe ,murders are committed under the influence of alcohol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ban alcohol no amount is safe ,murders are committed under the influence of alcohol</p>
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		<title>By: PeterE</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=52&#038;cpage=1#comment-645</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I really see nothing wrong with allowing children of secondary school age the occasional small glass of beer or wine when their parents are having one. Surely it is likely to promote a more responsible attitude to alcohol in later life if children are brought up to understand that it is something that can be enjoyed in moderation rather than regarding it as forbidden fruit.&quot;

Hmm, those were my words. Never thought I&#039;d find myself quoted on here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I really see nothing wrong with allowing children of secondary school age the occasional small glass of beer or wine when their parents are having one. Surely it is likely to promote a more responsible attitude to alcohol in later life if children are brought up to understand that it is something that can be enjoyed in moderation rather than regarding it as forbidden fruit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm, those were my words. Never thought I&#8217;d find myself quoted on here!</p>
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		<title>By: phrtao</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=52&#038;cpage=1#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>phrtao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought on the availability of illegal drugs to minors. They are often sold sub-standard or substitute substances (most adults are in this unfortunate position but young people are especially vulnerable). Also young people are a less discerning market and less likely to make a fuss at being sold poor quality goods.

With legal drugs there are things such as seals on the product to ensure quality and to protect against an adulterated supply. The legal producers already make and distribute their products as cheaply as possible so the counterfeit market does not exist to the same extent. This is certainly the case with alcohol but less so now with tobacco since it is so heavily taxed. 

I am sure most kids can find someone who will sell them any substance they care to name but what they actually get is often poor quality if it is even the substance they have asked for at all. 
Soap Bar hash, Weed with contaminants  to bulk the weight, Speed sold as Cocaine etc

By the way weed requires skill and care in growing, proper trimming, proper drying, proper storage and curing for at least 3 months before use. Anything less is not at it&#039;s full potential to say the least !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought on the availability of illegal drugs to minors. They are often sold sub-standard or substitute substances (most adults are in this unfortunate position but young people are especially vulnerable). Also young people are a less discerning market and less likely to make a fuss at being sold poor quality goods.</p>
<p>With legal drugs there are things such as seals on the product to ensure quality and to protect against an adulterated supply. The legal producers already make and distribute their products as cheaply as possible so the counterfeit market does not exist to the same extent. This is certainly the case with alcohol but less so now with tobacco since it is so heavily taxed. </p>
<p>I am sure most kids can find someone who will sell them any substance they care to name but what they actually get is often poor quality if it is even the substance they have asked for at all.<br />
Soap Bar hash, Weed with contaminants  to bulk the weight, Speed sold as Cocaine etc</p>
<p>By the way weed requires skill and care in growing, proper trimming, proper drying, proper storage and curing for at least 3 months before use. Anything less is not at it&#8217;s full potential to say the least !</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=52&#038;cpage=1#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It surprises me how naive the authorities&#039; treatment of teenagers is. I&#039;m a surrogate parent of sorts to a teenager. What I&#039;ve learnt from her is:
-she&#039;s been able to get weed, e, k and speed with little difficulty (and at prices within the realms of pocket money) since she was 12
-alcohol and cigarettes still present a challenge to obtain at 16, the effect being she doesn&#039;t drink that much.

I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve already made this point but wanted to chip in anyway. Great blog btw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It surprises me how naive the authorities&#8217; treatment of teenagers is. I&#8217;m a surrogate parent of sorts to a teenager. What I&#8217;ve learnt from her is:<br />
-she&#8217;s been able to get weed, e, k and speed with little difficulty (and at prices within the realms of pocket money) since she was 12<br />
-alcohol and cigarettes still present a challenge to obtain at 16, the effect being she doesn&#8217;t drink that much.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve already made this point but wanted to chip in anyway. Great blog btw</p>
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		<title>By: phrtao</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=52&#038;cpage=1#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator>phrtao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The clear message re-categorising cannabis from C to B has done is to push alcohol further away from it in the spectrum of harm. People have their own anecdotal views on how harmful cannabis is and now they think alcohol is even safer.

We often forget just how many alcoholics work in prominent positions in society and have an influence over young peoples lives. (Remember if a person cannot go out for a meal or get through the weekend without consuming alcohol then they have a dependency.) Maybe the government should not listen to alcohol consumers or purveyors (dealers - in drug jargon) just as they refuse to listen to the views of cannabis users, growers or dealers when making those laws.

Many people have died through an unrealistic view of alcohol being the norm in our society. My father died last month of alcohol related illness and he was a really decent man who always kept himself fit, enjoyed sport and led an active life.  Until his dying day he was under the impression that alcohol did him no harm, was safe to consume with his medication and had nothing to do with his illness. He was not an unreasonable man and he always said that he thought all recreational drugs should be legal and controlled but he still had this idea that alcohol was not even a drug and harmless. How could I have told him he was wrong when virtually everyone else agreed with him. Liver failure was a secondary cause of death but the death certificate did not say it was alcohol related. If any other drugs were involved in someone&#039;s death then I am sure they would have been given full blame. It is sad for someone to kill themselves with drug use but even worse if they are deluding themselves or others about what is really happening to them.

Real people, real society, real consequences when we lie or sugar the truth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The clear message re-categorising cannabis from C to B has done is to push alcohol further away from it in the spectrum of harm. People have their own anecdotal views on how harmful cannabis is and now they think alcohol is even safer.</p>
<p>We often forget just how many alcoholics work in prominent positions in society and have an influence over young peoples lives. (Remember if a person cannot go out for a meal or get through the weekend without consuming alcohol then they have a dependency.) Maybe the government should not listen to alcohol consumers or purveyors (dealers &#8211; in drug jargon) just as they refuse to listen to the views of cannabis users, growers or dealers when making those laws.</p>
<p>Many people have died through an unrealistic view of alcohol being the norm in our society. My father died last month of alcohol related illness and he was a really decent man who always kept himself fit, enjoyed sport and led an active life.  Until his dying day he was under the impression that alcohol did him no harm, was safe to consume with his medication and had nothing to do with his illness. He was not an unreasonable man and he always said that he thought all recreational drugs should be legal and controlled but he still had this idea that alcohol was not even a drug and harmless. How could I have told him he was wrong when virtually everyone else agreed with him. Liver failure was a secondary cause of death but the death certificate did not say it was alcohol related. If any other drugs were involved in someone&#8217;s death then I am sure they would have been given full blame. It is sad for someone to kill themselves with drug use but even worse if they are deluding themselves or others about what is really happening to them.</p>
<p>Real people, real society, real consequences when we lie or sugar the truth</p>
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		<title>By: Blair Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blair Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed Steve, that was the exact recommendation of Judge Jerry Paradis (Vancouver, BC) to the New Zealand Law Commission that is reviewing &#039;drugs and the law&#039; [and usefully also examining the alcohol laws.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed Steve, that was the exact recommendation of Judge Jerry Paradis (Vancouver, BC) to the New Zealand Law Commission that is reviewing &#8216;drugs and the law&#8217; [and usefully also examining the alcohol laws.]</p>
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