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		<title>By: Jas Boston</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-5785</link>
		<dc:creator>Jas Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps organophosphates and pesticide use is the real reason tobacco causes lung cancer. The rise in lung cancer occurred at the same time as postwar huge rise in pesticide use especially the organophosphates types. My grandfather died 1954, smoked a pipe all life, but he was the fourth case of lung cancer the hospital had seen in ove 100 years of the hospital. Why? people have smoked for centuries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps organophosphates and pesticide use is the real reason tobacco causes lung cancer. The rise in lung cancer occurred at the same time as postwar huge rise in pesticide use especially the organophosphates types. My grandfather died 1954, smoked a pipe all life, but he was the fourth case of lung cancer the hospital had seen in ove 100 years of the hospital. Why? people have smoked for centuries.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-4901</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You dropped your tin foil hat mate!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You dropped your tin foil hat mate!</p>
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		<title>By: tokedesigner</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-4898</link>
		<dc:creator>tokedesigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@sunshine: you&#039;re exactly right: &quot;drinkers and (tobacco) smokers are ignored by the MODA&quot;-- guess why? because of PROPERTY RIGHTS!  

What property rights?  The tobacco and alcohol addicts are considered, by present de facto policy, to be PROPERTY of the corporate giant entities (which are really governments!) that extract profits from their addiction.  And H. M. Government, which extracts a segment of the money known popularly as &quot;taxes&quot;, and thus profits from the same addiction, and entities such as the Chinese government, which actually own and operate the tobacco company (&quot;Communism&quot;)-- apply a Policy which consists of respecting a presumed Property Right of the $igarette company to own and operate the Addiction, or maybe the Addicted persons themselves, by means of hatefearteasing-- oops sorry, ADVERTISING for purposes of Profit (on which the families and mortgages of millions of Employees depend, so, well, it&#039;s good for the Economy).

Now these government-like $igarette companies, and the governments receiving the Bribe (in form of &quot;taxes&quot;) to let such trade continue, are true Slaveowners over the alcohol and nicotine drug addicts, which are truly Slaves.  And the attitude of nicotine-addict-slaveowning Corps and Govts today toward CANNABIS LEGALIZATION is like the attitude of an Alabama slaveowner in say, 1853, toward the emergence of &quot;free soil&quot; entities like CANNADA or CANNECTICUT where a Negro slave could ESCAPE to-- presumably violating said slaveowner&#039;s Property Rights under Fugitive Slave Laws.

And just as the cannabis suppression laws of today really continue those Fugitive Slave Laws of yesteryear, protecting profit/property rights of de facto slaveowners, there is today a DRUG* ENFORCEMENT AGENCY (USA) and imitators worldwide, continuing the various escaped-slave-recapturing agencies of pre-Civil-War America, or its later Ku Klux Klan-type agencies to suppress uppity Negroes**
and keep racial minorities cowed and trapped in a low-wage economic slave ghetto.  

*Q. What drug do they enforce?  A. Niggotine!

**Guess what &quot;drug&quot; Hearst accused of making the Negroes uppity?

WHAT TO DO?  Cut off the money: support and promote every device, utensil or practice which eliminates the high profit hot burning overdose $IGARETTE format whence cometh the slaveowner wealth which oligarchs use to bribe governments (and control world power to prohibit cannabis).   This includes vapourisers, e-cigarette (with either nicotine or cannabinoid formulas) and cheap ubiquitous home-made one-hitters (see Wikipedia).

*Q. What drug do they enforce?  A. Niggotine!

**Guess what &quot;drug&quot; Hearst accused of making the Negroes uppity?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sunshine: you&#8217;re exactly right: &#8220;drinkers and (tobacco) smokers are ignored by the MODA&#8221;&#8211; guess why? because of PROPERTY RIGHTS!  </p>
<p>What property rights?  The tobacco and alcohol addicts are considered, by present de facto policy, to be PROPERTY of the corporate giant entities (which are really governments!) that extract profits from their addiction.  And H. M. Government, which extracts a segment of the money known popularly as &#8220;taxes&#8221;, and thus profits from the same addiction, and entities such as the Chinese government, which actually own and operate the tobacco company (&#8220;Communism&#8221;)&#8211; apply a Policy which consists of respecting a presumed Property Right of the $igarette company to own and operate the Addiction, or maybe the Addicted persons themselves, by means of hatefearteasing&#8211; oops sorry, ADVERTISING for purposes of Profit (on which the families and mortgages of millions of Employees depend, so, well, it&#8217;s good for the Economy).</p>
<p>Now these government-like $igarette companies, and the governments receiving the Bribe (in form of &#8220;taxes&#8221;) to let such trade continue, are true Slaveowners over the alcohol and nicotine drug addicts, which are truly Slaves.  And the attitude of nicotine-addict-slaveowning Corps and Govts today toward CANNABIS LEGALIZATION is like the attitude of an Alabama slaveowner in say, 1853, toward the emergence of &#8220;free soil&#8221; entities like CANNADA or CANNECTICUT where a Negro slave could ESCAPE to&#8211; presumably violating said slaveowner&#8217;s Property Rights under Fugitive Slave Laws.</p>
<p>And just as the cannabis suppression laws of today really continue those Fugitive Slave Laws of yesteryear, protecting profit/property rights of de facto slaveowners, there is today a DRUG* ENFORCEMENT AGENCY (USA) and imitators worldwide, continuing the various escaped-slave-recapturing agencies of pre-Civil-War America, or its later Ku Klux Klan-type agencies to suppress uppity Negroes**<br />
and keep racial minorities cowed and trapped in a low-wage economic slave ghetto.  </p>
<p>*Q. What drug do they enforce?  A. Niggotine!</p>
<p>**Guess what &#8220;drug&#8221; Hearst accused of making the Negroes uppity?</p>
<p>WHAT TO DO?  Cut off the money: support and promote every device, utensil or practice which eliminates the high profit hot burning overdose $IGARETTE format whence cometh the slaveowner wealth which oligarchs use to bribe governments (and control world power to prohibit cannabis).   This includes vapourisers, e-cigarette (with either nicotine or cannabinoid formulas) and cheap ubiquitous home-made one-hitters (see Wikipedia).</p>
<p>*Q. What drug do they enforce?  A. Niggotine!</p>
<p>**Guess what &#8220;drug&#8221; Hearst accused of making the Negroes uppity?</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine band</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-4880</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine band</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And where I talked just now about drugs having or not having controls over them, please kick me in the shin and tattoo on a visible skin surface that drugs are not subject to controls, only people are.  It&#039;s drinkers and smokers who are ignorred by the MODA entirely by policy (in conflict with the MODA) and cannabis users who are persecuted irrespective of their peaceful use (in conflict with the MODA).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where I talked just now about drugs having or not having controls over them, please kick me in the shin and tattoo on a visible skin surface that drugs are not subject to controls, only people are.  It&#8217;s drinkers and smokers who are ignorred by the MODA entirely by policy (in conflict with the MODA) and cannabis users who are persecuted irrespective of their peaceful use (in conflict with the MODA).</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine band</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-4879</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine band</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good stuff - just to clarify the DEA position so widely misunderstood re legal/illegal drugs.  As you like to point out, the notion of &#039;controlled drugs&#039; (being the correct legal term) is a complete misnomer as the reality is that such drugs have no controls (other than criminal sanctions) over them so that the illicit trade is on entirely unregulated products.  The irony is yet more profound because the belief in illegal drugs and the necessary corrolary of &#039;legal drugs&#039; means that whilst they have some control over the &#039;non-controlled&#039; so-called legal drugs, in reality they abandoned responsibility over the vast majority of drug misusers in the country. This is because they believe that these people are misusing &#039;legal drugs&#039; and are thus exempt from the law ostensibly thre to protect society from this scourge - this is the real objection beyond the de-personalisation issue.  It&#039;s worth also mentionning that using cannabis is not illegal either, despite it being very hard to actually use it without breaking a property offence under current policy.  The significance of this is that the primary law sets out to curb misuse by restricting property rights, not to curb all use of a drug as a default position.  What is assumed to be the default position ie prohibition, is no such thing, that is a policy choice that is in fact inconsistent with the MODA&#039;s objects and purposes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff &#8211; just to clarify the DEA position so widely misunderstood re legal/illegal drugs.  As you like to point out, the notion of &#8216;controlled drugs&#8217; (being the correct legal term) is a complete misnomer as the reality is that such drugs have no controls (other than criminal sanctions) over them so that the illicit trade is on entirely unregulated products.  The irony is yet more profound because the belief in illegal drugs and the necessary corrolary of &#8216;legal drugs&#8217; means that whilst they have some control over the &#8216;non-controlled&#8217; so-called legal drugs, in reality they abandoned responsibility over the vast majority of drug misusers in the country. This is because they believe that these people are misusing &#8216;legal drugs&#8217; and are thus exempt from the law ostensibly thre to protect society from this scourge &#8211; this is the real objection beyond the de-personalisation issue.  It&#8217;s worth also mentionning that using cannabis is not illegal either, despite it being very hard to actually use it without breaking a property offence under current policy.  The significance of this is that the primary law sets out to curb misuse by restricting property rights, not to curb all use of a drug as a default position.  What is assumed to be the default position ie prohibition, is no such thing, that is a policy choice that is in fact inconsistent with the MODA&#8217;s objects and purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: tokedesigner</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-4875</link>
		<dc:creator>tokedesigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.  proofreadage:  &quot;So the underlying cause of the problem is easy to identify, drugs policy is built on a huge deception as drugs are not illegal and therefore controlled drugs are not controlled.&quot;-- put &quot;...&quot; around the first &quot;controlled&quot;.

2.  Another hugely important deception is the immediately attached one that the herb is a &quot;drug&quot; rather than an herb; whereas it&#039;s the hot burning overdose (&quot;joint&quot; = giant) that &quot;controlls&quot; this definition and makes something a &quot;drug&quot;.  

There really does exist a Control Opportunity, as solid as the chair Berkeley was urged to kick, namely, a DIY Dosage Control Utensil, offering (a) vaporization instead of toxic combustion, or (b) 25-mg. servings instead of typically 500-mg. and more in a &quot;joint&quot; or $igarette, conventionally lighted up once and for all to be &quot;consumed&quot; in minutes, with overdose, heatshock and combustion toxin effects all deceptively attributed to the cannabis or to a mythically &quot;too high&quot; THC content therein.

Let us confront the politicians with an invitation to study this issue and perhaps, by combining tobacco and cannabis issues in a single perspective, they may decide to provide every admitted &quot;smoker&quot; (of any species) with possession of or access to (a) vapouriser, (b) e-cigarette or (c) a collection of cheap one-hitters with one handy wherever and whenever one needs one.  The total cost to taxpayer from Giving each user whatever Dosage Control equipment they are capable of using might reduce H. M. Budget by
Billions on the tobacco disease health care
 side alone.

3.  Another important Lie: THC is the problem.  The proposed Massachusetts Act specifies $10/ounce rax on each per cent of THC in the herb, i.e. 5% herb would be $50/ounce.  This propagandizes by way of negative incentive against THC use and drives your favourite 10% herb into the black market.  

The Massachusettsians might consider welfarestating vapourisers and low dosage one-hitters to all registered cannabis users, along with an education in how to use the equipment so that any THC &quot;uberstrength&quot; at such tiny dosages will be moot, meanwhile citizens escape being trapped into hot burning overdose heatshock, carbon monoxide etc.

A name for this could be: Management Infrastructure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  proofreadage:  &#8220;So the underlying cause of the problem is easy to identify, drugs policy is built on a huge deception as drugs are not illegal and therefore controlled drugs are not controlled.&#8221;&#8211; put &#8220;&#8230;&#8221; around the first &#8220;controlled&#8221;.</p>
<p>2.  Another hugely important deception is the immediately attached one that the herb is a &#8220;drug&#8221; rather than an herb; whereas it&#8217;s the hot burning overdose (&#8220;joint&#8221; = giant) that &#8220;controlls&#8221; this definition and makes something a &#8220;drug&#8221;.  </p>
<p>There really does exist a Control Opportunity, as solid as the chair Berkeley was urged to kick, namely, a DIY Dosage Control Utensil, offering (a) vaporization instead of toxic combustion, or (b) 25-mg. servings instead of typically 500-mg. and more in a &#8220;joint&#8221; or $igarette, conventionally lighted up once and for all to be &#8220;consumed&#8221; in minutes, with overdose, heatshock and combustion toxin effects all deceptively attributed to the cannabis or to a mythically &#8220;too high&#8221; THC content therein.</p>
<p>Let us confront the politicians with an invitation to study this issue and perhaps, by combining tobacco and cannabis issues in a single perspective, they may decide to provide every admitted &#8220;smoker&#8221; (of any species) with possession of or access to (a) vapouriser, (b) e-cigarette or (c) a collection of cheap one-hitters with one handy wherever and whenever one needs one.  The total cost to taxpayer from Giving each user whatever Dosage Control equipment they are capable of using might reduce H. M. Budget by<br />
Billions on the tobacco disease health care<br />
 side alone.</p>
<p>3.  Another important Lie: THC is the problem.  The proposed Massachusetts Act specifies $10/ounce rax on each per cent of THC in the herb, i.e. 5% herb would be $50/ounce.  This propagandizes by way of negative incentive against THC use and drives your favourite 10% herb into the black market.  </p>
<p>The Massachusettsians might consider welfarestating vapourisers and low dosage one-hitters to all registered cannabis users, along with an education in how to use the equipment so that any THC &#8220;uberstrength&#8221; at such tiny dosages will be moot, meanwhile citizens escape being trapped into hot burning overdose heatshock, carbon monoxide etc.</p>
<p>A name for this could be: Management Infrastructure.</p>
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		<title>By: Mafficker</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-4868</link>
		<dc:creator>Mafficker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this excellent post! 

Perhaps smoked organophosphates are a causal factor in cannabis psychosis! 

This is certainly a known unknown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this excellent post! </p>
<p>Perhaps smoked organophosphates are a causal factor in cannabis psychosis! </p>
<p>This is certainly a known unknown.</p>
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