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		<title>By: UKCIA</title>
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		<dc:creator>UKCIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JMMB

You wrote

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Well, in all fairness, have we all forgotten that the average drug indulger almost certainly has a predisposition to those habits by way perhaps of genetic carry-over by the practices of their biological parents present or past or perhaps even during pregnancy
&gt;&gt;

Where did you get that from? Total fabrication I&#039;m afraid.

You should be aware that the vast, vast majority of cannabis users suffer no ill-effects at all from their cannabis use.

Of course you can overdo almost anything.</description>
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<p>You wrote</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;<br />
Well, in all fairness, have we all forgotten that the average drug indulger almost certainly has a predisposition to those habits by way perhaps of genetic carry-over by the practices of their biological parents present or past or perhaps even during pregnancy<br />
&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Where did you get that from? Total fabrication I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>You should be aware that the vast, vast majority of cannabis users suffer no ill-effects at all from their cannabis use.</p>
<p>Of course you can overdo almost anything.</p>
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		<title>By: JMMB</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=76&#038;cpage=1#comment-1989</link>
		<dc:creator>JMMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, in all fairness, have we all forgotten that the average drug indulger almost certainly has a predisposition to those habits by way perhaps of genetic carry-over by the practices of their biological parents present or past or perhaps even during pregnancy. Couldn&#039;t it also be plainly by way of what they were exposed to by their parents and/or guardians (many times from their early years) who most certainly knew that it was not right to expose the kids to their practices let alone the smoke itself and justify  their arrogances with the line &quot;cannabis was harmless&quot;  even if most, (the honest ones at least) are quite prepared to agree that they have at least once or twice  witnessed episodes of unexplainable behaviors by some of their mates (co-users)to which one could only refer as some level of over indulgence or the result of. Therefore, when the inner-self puts on an unexplainable song and dance (often unrecallable) by the doer, one would find it hard to say anything other then &quot;he/she had a brain snap. Someone please tell me that, that is anything other than a mental episode. Long before this episodes come around, back in the early days of the practice, another episode (which most choose to ignore) had already taken it&#039;s place in the users mind and that is the onset of laziness, sometimes extreme laziness, which is usually the reason why they couldn&#039;t be bothered in the first place to hide the practices from their families and/or friends and hence their offsprings copled to whatever justifications they could muster, reguardless. Someone tell me please, that, that almost uncontrollable (verdging on irresponsible) onset of laziness is not a form of mental imbalance particularlly when one knows that the responsibilities they are ignoring or have choosen to ignored were simply theirs alone. Have we forgotten absent-mindedness, forgetfulness, irritability, short-temperedness, irrationality, sleeplessness, diminishing selfrespect and on and on and on. Might I add too, especially for those of us who have the habit of selective memory lose, that most indulgers usually dabble in most other so called &quot;mild-happy&quot; drugs that come about, or wouldn&#039;t think twice before having a try. Many times, this is only the begining and it doesn&#039;t usually end there. This goes without saying that most users also use either coffee, tea, tobacco, alcohol, tranquillizers, sleeping pills, painkillers and others substances or all of the above. Wasn&#039;t the revered saying &quot;Too much of anything is poisonous&quot;. I&#039;m certain that rule applies in this instance without a doubt. I dare say that there is a lack of genuine honesty on both sides of the debate, particularly when it comes to bearing in mind the extent to which the habit of drug taking very commonly developes as well as the commonality of the cocktails used that become the norm and the varied changes that most users experience in themselves though many don&#039;t realize the changes and alot may not necessarily admit to. I&#039;ve been there and done that and trust me when I say most of those mates I had who were not able to let go suffered and many are still suffering the result of varying attitudes and reasoning etc, etc, etc. Many now live alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in all fairness, have we all forgotten that the average drug indulger almost certainly has a predisposition to those habits by way perhaps of genetic carry-over by the practices of their biological parents present or past or perhaps even during pregnancy. Couldn&#8217;t it also be plainly by way of what they were exposed to by their parents and/or guardians (many times from their early years) who most certainly knew that it was not right to expose the kids to their practices let alone the smoke itself and justify  their arrogances with the line &#8220;cannabis was harmless&#8221;  even if most, (the honest ones at least) are quite prepared to agree that they have at least once or twice  witnessed episodes of unexplainable behaviors by some of their mates (co-users)to which one could only refer as some level of over indulgence or the result of. Therefore, when the inner-self puts on an unexplainable song and dance (often unrecallable) by the doer, one would find it hard to say anything other then &#8220;he/she had a brain snap. Someone please tell me that, that is anything other than a mental episode. Long before this episodes come around, back in the early days of the practice, another episode (which most choose to ignore) had already taken it&#8217;s place in the users mind and that is the onset of laziness, sometimes extreme laziness, which is usually the reason why they couldn&#8217;t be bothered in the first place to hide the practices from their families and/or friends and hence their offsprings copled to whatever justifications they could muster, reguardless. Someone tell me please, that, that almost uncontrollable (verdging on irresponsible) onset of laziness is not a form of mental imbalance particularlly when one knows that the responsibilities they are ignoring or have choosen to ignored were simply theirs alone. Have we forgotten absent-mindedness, forgetfulness, irritability, short-temperedness, irrationality, sleeplessness, diminishing selfrespect and on and on and on. Might I add too, especially for those of us who have the habit of selective memory lose, that most indulgers usually dabble in most other so called &#8220;mild-happy&#8221; drugs that come about, or wouldn&#8217;t think twice before having a try. Many times, this is only the begining and it doesn&#8217;t usually end there. This goes without saying that most users also use either coffee, tea, tobacco, alcohol, tranquillizers, sleeping pills, painkillers and others substances or all of the above. Wasn&#8217;t the revered saying &#8220;Too much of anything is poisonous&#8221;. I&#8217;m certain that rule applies in this instance without a doubt. I dare say that there is a lack of genuine honesty on both sides of the debate, particularly when it comes to bearing in mind the extent to which the habit of drug taking very commonly developes as well as the commonality of the cocktails used that become the norm and the varied changes that most users experience in themselves though many don&#8217;t realize the changes and alot may not necessarily admit to. I&#8217;ve been there and done that and trust me when I say most of those mates I had who were not able to let go suffered and many are still suffering the result of varying attitudes and reasoning etc, etc, etc. Many now live alone.</p>
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		<title>By: UKCIA</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=76&#038;cpage=1#comment-1960</link>
		<dc:creator>UKCIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wondering

I&#039;ve combined your four comments into one, please don&#039;t post multiple comments.

To your first point - and if you&#039;d taken the time to read around this site and it&#039;s blog you would know that one of the prime aims of UKCIA is to see a properly regualted trade in cannabis, which would include age limits for purchase. So no, children shouldn&#039;t using cannabis. Under prohibition, there is nothing to stop them however.

As to your othe points I think they are quite distasteful really and there have always been people with mental heatlh problems as you describe, long before cannabis became popular.

And yes, there have been several studies of cannabis use and intelligence, check out the research section of UKCIA

It&#039;s strange isn&#039;t it how some people seem to know lots of cannabis users who became mentally harmed in some way, whereas most of us who have been close t the culture for some time never met any.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve combined your four comments into one, please don&#8217;t post multiple comments.</p>
<p>To your first point &#8211; and if you&#8217;d taken the time to read around this site and it&#8217;s blog you would know that one of the prime aims of UKCIA is to see a properly regualted trade in cannabis, which would include age limits for purchase. So no, children shouldn&#8217;t using cannabis. Under prohibition, there is nothing to stop them however.</p>
<p>As to your othe points I think they are quite distasteful really and there have always been people with mental heatlh problems as you describe, long before cannabis became popular.</p>
<p>And yes, there have been several studies of cannabis use and intelligence, check out the research section of UKCIA</p>
<p>It&#8217;s strange isn&#8217;t it how some people seem to know lots of cannabis users who became mentally harmed in some way, whereas most of us who have been close t the culture for some time never met any.</p>
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		<title>By: Wondering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you let your OWN child smoke or eat cannabis?  Would you encourage your OWN child and tell him/her there is nothing wrong with doing that?

There is this tall, blue eyed, handsome man living in London who smokes it daily. He now works at a hospital and claims cannabis is not harmful. Yet, after smoking it for many years, whereas he used to display intelligence, now he cannot understand simple math equations and worse, misinterprets 80-90% of very simple sentences. He has other visible signs of physical, mental malfunction problems. No, do not think that, there is palpable evidence (proof) he was not always like that. It was only after the years of use that his brain became “addled”. He always keeps a good size stash in his flat, smokes daily and smells like pot, yet he wants to get married and have children! As a woman, would you have his child, that is, knowingly let YOUR child being created with such sperm and worse, be raised by such a man?

If you do get pregnant from such a person, it is better to give the child up for adoption so that he can never have a hand in raising a child who already has problems just by being created by such defective sperm.

I wonder if a study has been made of people’s IQ and other mental capacity and intelligence measurements at age 20 and again 20 years later, with half the test subjects using cannabis daily and the other half not. The people I have observed who used cannabis for many years display paranoia, some sociopathic symptoms (no consideration of others’ feelings and others), obvious narcissistic actions and reactions to everyday functions, some with daily use also display some schizophrenic symptoms.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you let your OWN child smoke or eat cannabis?  Would you encourage your OWN child and tell him/her there is nothing wrong with doing that?</p>
<p>There is this tall, blue eyed, handsome man living in London who smokes it daily. He now works at a hospital and claims cannabis is not harmful. Yet, after smoking it for many years, whereas he used to display intelligence, now he cannot understand simple math equations and worse, misinterprets 80-90% of very simple sentences. He has other visible signs of physical, mental malfunction problems. No, do not think that, there is palpable evidence (proof) he was not always like that. It was only after the years of use that his brain became “addled”. He always keeps a good size stash in his flat, smokes daily and smells like pot, yet he wants to get married and have children! As a woman, would you have his child, that is, knowingly let YOUR child being created with such sperm and worse, be raised by such a man?</p>
<p>If you do get pregnant from such a person, it is better to give the child up for adoption so that he can never have a hand in raising a child who already has problems just by being created by such defective sperm.</p>
<p>I wonder if a study has been made of people’s IQ and other mental capacity and intelligence measurements at age 20 and again 20 years later, with half the test subjects using cannabis daily and the other half not. The people I have observed who used cannabis for many years display paranoia, some sociopathic symptoms (no consideration of others’ feelings and others), obvious narcissistic actions and reactions to everyday functions, some with daily use also display some schizophrenic symptoms.</p>
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		<title>By: bob marley</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=76&#038;cpage=1#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>bob marley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U cry about cannabis why don&#039;t you see the effects of alcohol -.-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U cry about cannabis why don&#8217;t you see the effects of alcohol -.-</p>
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		<title>By: archibald</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=76&#038;cpage=1#comment-1638</link>
		<dc:creator>archibald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Present cannabis law is based on misinformation
&amp; government propoganda.More harm is being done by the law than cannabis.Alcohol is far more harmful.Also cannabis has many medical benefits.
The present situation is a tragic farce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Present cannabis law is based on misinformation<br />
&amp; government propoganda.More harm is being done by the law than cannabis.Alcohol is far more harmful.Also cannabis has many medical benefits.<br />
The present situation is a tragic farce.</p>
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		<title>By: Wink09</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=76&#038;cpage=1#comment-1552</link>
		<dc:creator>Wink09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#124; am sure that statistics could be found to support either side of the debate.Whether or not cannabis use has any health concerns attached can be put into perspective when we view cannabis along side thigs like alcohol, tobacco &amp; caffein. I doubt very much wether anyone would dispute the fact that alcohol &amp; tobacco are responsible for a huge number of deaths &amp; illnesses annualy around the world. Why is there no great concern about the risks to our health when it comes to putting flouride in public water? A toxic industrial waste product that is the main ingredient of rat poison. If legalized, The benefits of hemp &amp; cannabis production would far outweigh any disadvantages.
The laws that govern cannabis serve only to protect profits not people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>| am sure that statistics could be found to support either side of the debate.Whether or not cannabis use has any health concerns attached can be put into perspective when we view cannabis along side thigs like alcohol, tobacco &amp; caffein. I doubt very much wether anyone would dispute the fact that alcohol &amp; tobacco are responsible for a huge number of deaths &amp; illnesses annualy around the world. Why is there no great concern about the risks to our health when it comes to putting flouride in public water? A toxic industrial waste product that is the main ingredient of rat poison. If legalized, The benefits of hemp &amp; cannabis production would far outweigh any disadvantages.<br />
The laws that govern cannabis serve only to protect profits not people.</p>
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		<title>By: сесшоп мэн</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=76&#038;cpage=1#comment-1537</link>
		<dc:creator>сесшоп мэн</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>спасибо</description>
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		<title>By: архитектор</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=76&#038;cpage=1#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator>архитектор</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>мне понравилось,в тему</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>мне понравилось,в тему</p>
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		<title>By: M,Mouse</title>
		<link>http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=76&#038;cpage=1#comment-1411</link>
		<dc:creator>M,Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats one side of the story, here is the other half.
The webpage at the bottom is a newly available study avaialable online since July 29 2009 it looks at the statistics of cannabis users and mental illness/psychosis and, found that over a ten year period there has not been a significant increase in mental illness/pyschosis that would indicate that cannabis causes/increases mental illness/. Also to FRANK, and other goverment misinformation. You will only annoy people when they find out the truth and this will render your points whatever they be useless.
http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=76</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats one side of the story, here is the other half.<br />
The webpage at the bottom is a newly available study avaialable online since July 29 2009 it looks at the statistics of cannabis users and mental illness/psychosis and, found that over a ten year period there has not been a significant increase in mental illness/pyschosis that would indicate that cannabis causes/increases mental illness/. Also to FRANK, and other goverment misinformation. You will only annoy people when they find out the truth and this will render your points whatever they be useless.<br />
<a href="http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=76" rel="nofollow">http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=76</a></p>
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